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July 30, 2008

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Joe Chapline

I just want to throw this out about legal requirements. Most laws are made knowing that they can be broken. I'm not talking about being a criminal or a scofflaw. I'm talking about having the ability to, for example, deliberately disturb the peace and violate the noise ordinance in order to let your neighbors know their house is on fire. So when we're talking about making something impossible, as opposed to illegal, it's really important to try to think through the unintended consequences.

Melissa Esposito

I think we can all agree that this discussion will be most fruitful if everyone involved tries to stay on topic. There's no need for anyone to be patronizing.

I agree that people were able to get things done without phones before they came along and can still do so. I only have had a cell phone for a couple of years, and managed just fine, too. However, I recognize that when used responsibly (hands-free, and for brief periods of time) they are an effective tool for people to communicate, and that they are particularly useful in unusual, emergency situations where safety is most in question. If safety is a priority, all tools for communication in the situation should be utilized to their fullest extent.

Cars also crash when people are distracted by playing with the radio. Yet no one has proposed removing radios from cars. Children in the backseat can distract a driver, but we don't ban people from driving with kids.

I'm not saying people should be able to drive all they want with a cell phone in one hand. I am saying, however, that a government agency should not pass an all-encompassing policy to ban a cell phone from working in a car. We should instead hold drivers responsible for their actions, enforce laws already on the books that ban people from talking with a handheld cell phone (I'm looking at you, DC), and educate drivers on the risks of their behavior.

BeyondDC

And how about, y'know, cars with passengers who use a phone while someone else drives? Or truckers using CBs? Or taxi drivers receiving dispatch?

I'm not familiar with this proposed law, but "shutting off any communication device that is integrated to the vehicle" sounds like overkill to the extreme.

Safety is my No1 priority

Ok Melissa, I'll bite.

If you need to make a phone call while driving, pull over and turn off the engine. It's not that hard. If you are being chased by bad guys, the police are not going to get there before the bad guys anyway. You need your full attention to safely drive to the police station. And remember, your saftey in no more important than any cyclist that you may plow into while trying to get away.

I bet you didn't know this but, people, even professionals, led happy, healthy and productive lives while operating automobiles before the invention of the mobile phone.

By the way, it's not safe to use your phone while biking either. Even though you see lots of multi-taskers pulling out in front of you while talking on their cell phones.

I think the granola bar detection device is a splendid idea. And given how dangerous automobiles are, they should have a sensor that detects whether you are wearing you driving helmet before the car can move forward.

BeyondDC

As for monorail, it has a whole set of problems associated with it. Monorail is a rare mode of transit around the world because except in very specific circumstances it's not as good as traditional rail. We're not building it in the Dulles corridor because it doesn't make sense to build it in the Dulles corridor, not because people at WMATA are afraid of things that are different.

BeyondDC

>those interested in a tunnel should pool their money, have a couple of bake sales if needed, and pay for the difference themselves

Unfortunately it's not that simple. If even $1 of Federal money is being used on the project, then the ENTIRE project has to meet FTA efficiency standards. Right now the Tysons Metro just barely meets those standards, so if the cost of the project goes up (even if all of the extra cost is paid for locally) then it will shift from "meets standards" to "doesn't meet standards" and the Feds will pull all their funding.

It's stupid, it doesn't make any sense at all, and it doesn't take into account that the project will be better and wouldn't cost the Feds any extra, but that's the way the FTA currently operates.

Until the FTA changes there is no hope at all of a Tysons subway, regardless of where the money might come from.

Melissa Esposito

Speaking as a person who is happily living car-free, I think that having a car turn your cell phone off is a terrible idea. What about the people trying to use one responsibly through a hands-free device? What about if you have an emergency and are on the phone with your family/doctor/veterinarian trying to explain the problem - and then your phone cuts you off? If you're being chased by someone and you're trying to drive away AND get the police to come, you wouldn't be able to do both? Granted, these are extreme situations, but they do happen.

There are also correlations between eating while driving and accidents. Should we also shut down all drive through windows and turn a car off if it detects you brought a granola bar into the driver's seat? Advocating responsible use of all potential distractions ought to be the goal, not blanket rules that prevent people from making their own decisions based on their individual situations.

David Alpert

There are mountains of evidence that introducing an extra transfer significantly reduces transit ridership on a line. Just because some people do transfer doesn't mean there's not a huge cost to building something with a transfer. The SF Bay Area is a good example of a patchwork of incompatible transit systems and few people ride them because of it.

Plus, additional incompatible systems create additional maintenance costs, more labor costs for support staff for two systems, etc. Just look at the way Southwest Airlines uses only one plane type, something that's been widely hailed as a major advantage for them. Monorails have almost never been successful. We should absolutely only be considering expansion of our existing system.

Tom

You said.... "they never seemed to have an answer for why so many people took Metro bus and then transferred to Metro rail"

I don't know if you consider me part of "them" but I have an answer. It's because there are no (very few) busses that go from outside the beltway to the District.

All the inbound busses from Reston and Herndon park and rides (except 2) go to WFC metro. One of the two that go directly into the city, the 5A Dulles express, is so popular that you have to get in line 15-20 minutes early to guarantee a seat.

I find the express busses a much better option (when there is space available) than metro.

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